Host Brian Hiatt of the new Rolling stones podcast shares an excerpt of his interview with Rapper Ice-cube.

Ice – cube stated that “Even a little before [Ice-T’s] ‘6 ‘N The Mornin” I think the first thing we heard was Schoolly D’s “P.S.K.” And Just Ice had this dirty rap called “Latoya,” – it was like the nasty version of “La Dee Da Dee.” And Blowfly had “Rapp Dirty,”  so it was just like these fringe raps that were X-rated. The thing is, hip-hop, before it was all about talking about hard shit, it was like, how clever are you, how damn near funny can you be? How entertaining can you be with a rap? People like Blowfly had the style, to me, down pat. He was talking dirty, he was cussing, he was rhyming, but he was talking about some fly shit that pertained to him, so to me that style was raw but it was perfect for him.”

He went on to talk about late rapper Eazy- E. “Yeah, he was a little hustler. You know, his shit was just all fresh and clean, little jewelry on. You could just tell what somebody was doing. I admired him, you know. He was making money in the neighborhood, you know what I’m saying? He had money, he had his clientele, he was doing his shit, didn’t ask nobody for shit, so yeah. I dug him.”

“People used to think he was 15 for a long time! That Eazy name was just like something you could play with, mess with, you know. It’d remind me of Bootsy Collins. He could’ve done f##king action figures or whatever he wanted to do with that, you know? It was the perfect persona to play with. It was bad but it was vivid. Like a fucking Chucky doll or something. It’s just this f##king thing that’s got a life of its own.”

On Ice-cubes known histoe of rivalry with the police. “I don’t know nobody from the hood who ain’t really been messed with by the police at some point, and ,they get you early. They start messing with you when you’re nine, 10, just to put that intimidation in you.. They start at an early age fucking with you -pulling you off your bike, make you put your hands on the hood. For nine, 10 year olds, sitting on the grass, just played football — these swoop up and mess with you and it just happens all through your  life, you know what I mean, until you either get out of the neighborhood or whatever you do. But as teenagers it’s happening all the fucking time. All the time. Even recording the records we used to get messed with. And I think it’s systematic; it’s like make sure you put a good imprint on these young ones, so they know to fucking be scared of you when they get older. You keep having these incidents and the fear turns into resentment, frustration, and hatred.”